Why the Social Security Widow’s or Widower’s Limit Matters More Than Most Couples Realize
When most people think about claiming Social Security benefits early, they focus on one question: “How much will I receive?”
But there’s another critical question that often gets overlooked:
How will claiming early impact a surviving spouse?
This is where a little-known Social Security rule called the Widow’s or Widower’s Limit becomes incredibly important.
The Widow’s or Widower’s Limit—also known as the Retirement Insurance Benefit Limit (RIB-LIM)—can permanently reduce survivor benefits for widows and widowers if the deceased spouse claimed Social Security early.
Unfortunately, many retirees never hear about this rule until it’s too late.
Understanding how survivor benefits work can help married couples make smarter claiming decisions and avoid unintentionally reducing income for the surviving spouse later in retirement.
What Is the Social Security Widow’s or Widower’s Limit?
The Social Security Widow’s or Widower’s Limit is a rule that restricts how much a surviving spouse can receive if the deceased spouse claimed retirement benefits early.
In simple terms:
- If someone claims Social Security before Full Retirement Age, they permanently reduce their own benefit.
- That reduced benefit can also permanently limit what their surviving spouse may later receive.
This catches many families off guard because most people assume survivor benefits automatically equal the deceased spouse’s full benefit.
That’s not always true.
In some situations, the survivor benefit becomes capped because of the earlier claiming decision.
How Survivor Benefits Normally Work
To understand the Widow’s or Widower’s Limit, it helps to first understand standard survivor benefit rules.
Generally, when a spouse passes away, the surviving spouse may be eligible to receive survivor benefits based on the deceased spouse’s Social Security record.
The amount depends on:
- The deceased spouse’s benefit amount
- Whether the deceased spouse claimed early or delayed benefits
- The age at which the surviving spouse claims survivor benefits
For many widows and widowers, waiting until Full Retirement Age allows them to receive 100% of the survivor benefit.
However, claiming survivor benefits early can reduce the amount received.
When Can Survivor Benefits Begin?
Most surviving spouses can begin survivor benefits as early as age 60.
However, claiming before Full Retirement Age results in a reduced benefit.
For example:
- Claiming at age 60 provides approximately 71.5% of the survivor benefit
- Claiming at age 62 provides around 79.6%
- Waiting until Full Retirement Age allows the survivor to receive 100%
This reduction structure is similar to claiming one’s own Social Security retirement benefit early.
Normally, delaying benefits results in a larger monthly check.
But the Widow’s or Widower’s Limit changes the equation in certain cases.
Four Common Survivor Benefit Scenarios
Scenario #1: Spouse Dies Before Claiming Benefits
If someone passes away before claiming Social Security benefits—and before reaching Full Retirement Age—the surviving spouse may still receive the deceased spouse’s full Primary Insurance Amount (PIA).
The PIA is essentially the benefit amount available at Full Retirement Age.
Even if the spouse passed away in their 50s, survivor benefits may still be based on the full retirement benefit amount.
In this scenario, there is no Widow’s or Widower’s Limit issue.
Scenario #2: Spouse Delayed Benefits but Passed Away Before Claiming
If the deceased spouse delayed benefits past Full Retirement Age but died before filing, the surviving spouse may receive the increased benefit amount including delayed retirement credits earned up to the date of death.
Delayed retirement credits increase Social Security benefits by approximately 8% annually between Full Retirement Age and age 70.
This means delaying can significantly increase survivor income.
Again, the Widow’s or Widower’s Limit is generally not an issue here.
Scenario #3: Spouse Delayed Benefits and Claimed Before Death
If the deceased spouse delayed benefits and later began collecting them before passing away, the surviving spouse can often inherit the larger benefit amount including delayed retirement credits.
For couples where the higher earner delays benefits until age 70, this can create substantially larger survivor income later.
This strategy is often especially valuable for married couples concerned about longevity and protecting the surviving spouse financially.
Scenario #4: Spouse Claimed Benefits Early
This is where the Widow’s or Widower’s Limit becomes important.
If the deceased spouse claimed Social Security early—such as at age 62—their own benefit was permanently reduced.
That reduced amount can permanently cap the survivor benefit available to the widow or widower.
Even if the surviving spouse waits until Full Retirement Age, they may not receive the full original benefit amount.
Instead, they may only receive the reduced amount the deceased spouse locked in by claiming early.
A Simple Example of the Widow’s or Widower’s Limit
Suppose a husband’s Full Retirement Age benefit was supposed to be $3,000 per month.
Instead of waiting, he claims early and accepts a 15% reduction.
His actual monthly benefit becomes approximately $2,550.
Years later, after his death, the surviving spouse wants to maximize survivor benefits by waiting until Full Retirement Age.
Unfortunately, because he claimed early, the survivor benefit may now be capped around that reduced amount.
Even though the survivor delayed benefits responsibly, the earlier claiming decision already limited the available survivor income.
That’s the Widow’s or Widower’s Limit in action.
Why This Rule Surprises So Many Retirees
Many people assume Social Security decisions only impact themselves.
But for married couples, claiming decisions are often joint financial decisions.
When the higher-earning spouse claims early, the reduction may continue for the surviving spouse for the rest of their life.
This is especially important because:
- One spouse often lives significantly longer
- The surviving spouse may eventually rely heavily on Social Security income
- Inflation and healthcare costs continue rising throughout retirement
A reduced survivor benefit can create financial pressure later in life when flexibility becomes more limited.
The Little-Known 82.5% Rule
There is also a somewhat unusual provision built into the Social Security system.
In certain cases, widows and widowers may still receive at least 82.5% of the deceased spouse’s Full Retirement Age benefit.
This exists because of historical changes made to Full Retirement Age decades ago.
While this provision can help in some situations, it does not eliminate the broader impact of claiming early.
The key takeaway remains the same:
Claiming Social Security early can reduce lifetime survivor income.
Should Everyone Delay Social Security?
Not necessarily.
There are situations where claiming early may still make sense.
Examples can include:
- Health concerns or shorter life expectancy
- Immediate income needs
- Lack of other retirement assets
- Employment changes or early retirement
- Coordinating spousal benefits strategically
However, married couples should fully understand the long-term impact before making a permanent claiming decision.
Once Social Security benefits are claimed early, the reduction is generally permanent.
Why Social Security Planning Matters
Social Security is often one of the largest retirement income sources for American retirees.
Yet many people claim benefits without understanding the long-term consequences.
A coordinated claiming strategy can potentially:
- Increase lifetime household income
- Protect surviving spouses
- Reduce retirement income gaps
- Improve cash flow later in retirement
- Help manage longevity risk
Even small percentage differences in monthly benefits can add up to hundreds of thousands of dollars over a long retirement.
Common Social Security Misconceptions
“I Should Claim Early Before Social Security Runs Out”
Many retirees worry Social Security will disappear entirely.
While future reforms may occur, most experts do not expect Social Security benefits to vanish completely.
Claiming early out of fear alone may unintentionally reduce long-term household income.
“I’ll Collect More Checks If I Start Early”
While claiming early results in more monthly payments over time, the checks themselves are smaller.
For married couples, this can also reduce future survivor benefits.
“My Spouse Gets My Full Benefit Automatically”
This is one of the biggest misunderstandings.
If benefits were claimed early, the surviving spouse may inherit a reduced amount instead of the full original benefit.
How to Avoid Costly Social Security Mistakes
Social Security decisions should rarely be made in isolation.
Instead, they should be coordinated with:
- Retirement income planning
- Investment withdrawals
- Tax strategies
- Pension decisions
- Healthcare planning
- Longevity considerations
Every family situation is unique.
Factors like age differences, earnings history, health, and retirement goals all play important roles.
The Bottom Line on the Widow’s or Widower’s Limit
The Social Security Widow’s or Widower’s Limit is one of the least understood retirement rules, yet it can significantly impact surviving spouses.
If the higher-earning spouse claims benefits early, that decision may permanently reduce survivor income later.
For many married couples, delaying benefits—especially for the higher earner—can create stronger financial protection for the surviving spouse.
Understanding these rules before claiming Social Security can help families make more informed retirement decisions and potentially maximize lifetime income.
Frequently Asked Questions About the Social Security Widow’s or Widower’s Limit
What is the Social Security Widow’s or Widower’s Limit?
The Widow’s or Widower’s Limit is a Social Security rule that may cap survivor benefits if the deceased spouse claimed retirement benefits early.
Can a widow or widower receive 100% of a spouse’s Social Security?
Possibly. If the deceased spouse delayed benefits and the survivor waits until Full Retirement Age, the survivor may receive 100% of the available survivor benefit.
What happens if a spouse claimed Social Security at 62?
If benefits were claimed early at age 62, survivor benefits may also be reduced because of the Widow’s or Widower’s Limit.
At what age can survivor benefits begin?
Most widows and widowers can begin survivor benefits at age 60, although claiming early reduces the monthly amount.
Does delaying Social Security increase survivor benefits?
Yes. Delaying benefits can increase the amount available to a surviving spouse, especially when the higher earner delays until age 70.
Should married couples coordinate Social Security decisions?
Absolutely. Coordinated claiming strategies can help maximize household retirement income and better protect surviving spouses financially.
This article is for informational purposes only and should not be considered financial, tax, or legal advice. Individuals should consult qualified professionals regarding their unique retirement planning situation.
Daniel Wendol
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today we’re going to be talking about the social security Widow limit or widowers limit also known as Retirement insurance benefit limit or riim for short yes I don’t make these things up um but this show is specifically about those that have lost a spouse but it’s also for those that haven’t lost a spouse yet but that are married I want to pay particular attention to those that are thinking about claiming early they need to understand that they’re claiming early and they’re impacting
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their own benefit but also that of their Survivor so let me bring in my co-host Tony Shore Tony welcome to the show we’re talking Social Security surprise surprise and we’re talking about the social security Widow limited the riim rib hey you had me at ribs first of all but then you you ruined it you ruined it by limiting it I there will be no limits uh on ribs for me let let me tell you rib limits uh I can’t believe you said we’re talking about rib limits today and I I I I just don’t like it I
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don’t like and it’s it’s a depressing topic because we’re talking about a widow or widower and you just made it more depressing by me thinking about you eating rips and not not being limited so h a lot of napkins or paper towels are needed let’s just put it that way but I do enjoy the a good rib giving you a rib right now so we’re going to talk about The Widow’s limit have you heard of this before I mean we’ve we’ve done so many shows on on Social Security and I’ve talked about
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how if you take it early you’re not only locking in a lower limit for yourself but for your spouse so you know that but there’s a very nuanced piece to this that I want to go through I’ve never heard I don’t believe you’ve ever mentioned riim now you’ve talked about you’ve talked about widower Widow benefits I believe in the course of talking about social security but never riim so uh what are these widower benefit limits that you’re talking about yes so normally if you delay your
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benefits you get more right it goes up until you hit your full retirement age the same can be said about survivor benefits if you claims your Survivor benefit early which the earliest you can claim is 60 unless you’re disabled but for most people 60 is the earliest you can claim survivor benefits right you get a haircut speaking of that I need one but you get a haircut you get a decreased benefit if you claim your Survivor benefit early just like if you claimed your own benefit early ah right so people people
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get that but there’s a unique situation where you know if you delay you get more and more and more up to your full retirement age but for some widows or widowers there’s a limit that delaying doesn’t increase their benefit at all really I want to talk about that I want to talk about that because normally you just the longer you wait the more you get up to full retirement age for with survivor benefits not the case for certain people and it’s a lot of people and it’s widows and widowers
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so let’s talk about it so there’s four scenarios that I want to go through the first three are going to be bing bing bing because there’s no riin associated with them okay but I want people to understand the different scenarios this is for someone that lost a spouse let’s go through the four different scenarios so the first kind of clarifying things we’ve talked about things in the past but this is something that we need to you needed to clarify right right so we’ve talked so much about social
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security and done videos on that I’ll put all of them up there for those that want to watch this is specifically talking about survivor benefits we’re going a little deeper here but I think it’s important to do so um we’ve covered this before in other videos but we’re breaking this specific piece out our most popular video Tony believe it or not is on death Social Security and death so this of course this is a little bit more of a clarification popular give us Dirty Laundry yeah fear all right so
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the first scenario is your spouse dies before they reach their full retirement age we’ll call it 67 so they died before that and before they even claim benefits so what happens if your spouse dies at 55 what what what what then people get they’re concerned well do they get a huge reduction in their benefit because they weren’t full retirement age the answer is no they get you as a Survivor could get their full Pia which is their primary Insurance amount which is fancy speak for their
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full benefit that they would have gotten at their full retirement age even if they died in their 50s something like that you could get 100% of that if you wait until your full retirement age but we’ll get to that in a moment so the first thing you got to do when you’re thinking about survivor benefits is one what is the ma what is the Pia of the person that died and two when am I going to claim it and that’s usually how you could determine it but there’s a third factor is when did they claim so if
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someone dies before claiming the Social Security office assumes they would have waited at least until their full retirement age okay scenario two your spouse died after their retirement age but before they claim their benefits so they said oh I’m going to wait till 70 because I get more and more and more up to that limit and they call those delayed retirement credits if you wait past your full retirement age but what if they died at say 68 and they hadn’t claimed yet what what do you get
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then as a Survivor you get their full retirement benefit plus the delayed retirement credits up to the day they died that’s up to the month they died sure so you do so they were you the Social Security office again says oh they were delaying so let’s give them give the spouse the delayed you know because that was the intent so if I’m 65 and my spouse passes away uh and at let’s say they passed away at 72 and they didn’t file Social Security until 70 so that’s the highest
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amount they could have possibly get they let it roll up all the way to 70 and so they’re getting that much more than even their primary Insurance amount and they pass away at 7 2 I get that full of what they were getting then yes that’s scenario three your spouse delayed claiming and then died after claiming okay you get their full Pia primary Insurance amount full retirement AG benefit plus any delayed retirement credits they got up to when they filed so if they filed at the very end age 70
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you get it all if they filed at 68 you get everything up to age 68 and they file okay so you get all of that you don’t get 100% of it unless you claim it at your full retirement age so survivor benefits max out at survivors full retirement age unless the fourth scenario and that’s what we want to talk about today so that makes sense people get that all right yeah you get whatever your spouse was getting they delayed you get the delayed amount that’s how I thought it worked that is how it works
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so what if someone claims early scenario four this is what I want to talk about your spouse claimed early early and then dies right 62 is the earliest they could file for their own and then they die now you’re subjected to the Widow limit or the widower’s limit widow’s peak that’s what remember that I have yeah well I kind of we both have receding hairline so that’s a bad bad ju position there all right so well let’s talk about the Widow’s limit now what do they get there’s two things to remember
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one if you claim survivor benefits early they’re going to be reduced right so you can claim survivor benefits at age 60 if you do that you’re not getting 100% of the Survivor benefit you’re getting a haircut right in scenarios one two and three you wait all the way to say age 67 your full retirement age you get 100% of your Survivor benefit but if you claim early on any scenario you’re going to get less and number two your Survivor benefit the widower’s benefit is limited to the
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amount that your deceased spouse would have been receiving if they were still alive so you’re never going to get more than your spouse was getting when they were Al except in a very small case you get a minimum of 82 and a half perc and I’m gonna get to that later but I’m just throwing that in there for now so to to to Really show what this scenario four looks like because a lot of people say uh you know I get it all the time I’m taking 62 cuz you know burden in the hand I’m just going to take it because
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you know so scary is gonna go bankrupt or I might be dead and fine it makes sense I put show I’ll put a show up here why you should claim at 62 but I want to point out that there’s a benefit that you’re giving up to your spouse and I want to go through it the easiest way to go through it is to use a chart so what I’m going to do is I’m going to share my screen and I’m going to go through this chart for the viewers on YouTube you can click on there and see it yourself and
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um this is going to make it a lot simpler to understand I don’t want to try and confuse people in this I want people to understand um it’s it’s it’s not overly complex right can you see this Tony for retirement age for survivors born in 1962 or later you could change that by the way if I scroll over I forget where it is you could change it so that it’s not um 1962 or later you can change it for older people but I want to leave it for the most people now watching this video they’re
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they’re born 1960 or later right so the earliest you can claim is 60 right and if you claim at 60 you’re going to get 71 a half% of the benefit and if you claim at 62 you’re going to get 79.6 and if you claim at 65 you’re going to get 91.9 because 65 is not full retirement age 72 7 is so you see you’re going to get more as you wait but here’s the actual chart how your social security benefit is reduced so you see at age 60 Tony and these are Survivor benefit a right and every month you delay you get
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more and more at 61 you’re getting 75.6 all the way to 100% of the benefit at 67 see that makes sense right right all right now that’s makes sense for scenarios one two and three but what about someone that claims that their spouse claimed early now we don’t know what the spouse what age the spouse claim so let’s just pick a number let’s call it they claimed at 63 and something or 64 something like that what we know is if they claimed early and in this particular scenar will call the husband
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claimed early and he got 85% of his Pia he claimed and took a 15% haircut all right so the spouse the surviving spouse had no no uh choice in the matter they tried to stop him but he did it anyway and he’s getting an a 15% haircut for the rest of his life and he’s like I don’t care I I want it now right what happens when he dies and the Survivor still alive what do they get well the most they’re going to get is 85% of that person’s Pia that’s the most they’re going to get
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that’s the rule yeah but if they take it at 60 they’re going to get 71 and a half of the Pia if they take it if they wait and say 61 they’re going to get 75.8 of the Pia right and if they wait till 62 they’re going to get 79 point six of their deceased spouses Pia but here’s where it gets tricky Tony let’s fast forward to age 63 and 3 months in this scenario now the surviving spouse is 63 and 3 months and if they claim it that time they’re going to get 84.7% of their deceased spouse’s Pia if
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they wait till 63 and four months theoretically they should get 85.1% of their spouse’s Pia but they won’t they won’t because that’s higher than what their spouse would have been getting if they were still alive they’ve hit their Widow their widow’s limit so that’s how it’s limited so there’s no benefit at this point for this spouse Survivor to continue to delay well well if I wait till 64 I’m going to get 87.8 if I wait till 67 I’m going to get 100% of my
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husband’s Pia no you’re not he took it early and he capped you out at 85% so you should wait until age 63 and four months to claim it and not any month later because you’re not going to get any more than that benefit yeah you’re not going to get more than what they locked in interesting so it was a long it was a long walk to get to that point to see where you were going with that but it does make sense and that is something we hadn’t covered that limit that’s right because we always tell people you know
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you can claim your own and switch to survivor benefits at your later in life and for most people it’s you claim your own at 62 and switch to survivor benefits at 67 because you’re getting 100% of the Survivor benefit right but if your spoused claimed early and you want to take that early uh you’re gonna get a haircut but it doesn’t make sense to delay past whatever and and you don’t know what the spouse and unfortunately a lot of people claim early so this is probably a scenario that actually does come up a
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lot Dan it’s I don’t think it’s that remote of a possibility because the figures I’ve read are like 80% of people who file or hire file at 62 or at least file early I mean the majority of people the majority of Americans file early because they think I’ll get more checks that way you know and what if I don’t live as long or what if they cut Social Security that’s the that’s the thinking there and ironically my neighbor did that oh I filed when I was 60 don’t try
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to tell me and I because I said I go you should watch the show Dan Wendell did it’s getting it’s very popular uh because he goes through you know filing strategies and in your case he was 70 and still working and he filed at 62 doesn’t make sense he was working full-time right he didn’t know and and sometimes it makes sense to file early like I said sure there are what about scar what about your spouse right now going back to that 82 and a half% that’s the minimum too so when they made this
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rule in the 70s 82 and a half% was what people were getting when they filed early at 62 because the retirement age was 65 when they changed the retirement Agee to 67 in the 80s they didn’t adjust this so there is a little bit of a loophole that if your spouse took it at 62 you would at least get 82 and a half% which according to the Chart means it rarely makes sense for anyone that their spouse took it early as possible to wait past like age 63 right because they’re going to get they’re going to get capped but if they
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took it at 62 they actually get more than their spouse would have gotten in this strange loophole but the bottom line is that taking social security early limits your income for you and your Survivor you need to know that right and we’ve tried to beat that home but now this shows you specifics of how it works and so consider delaying to not only benefit yourself but your spouse right and eliminate this whole widow’s limit by taking it at at your full retirement age or later and then understand this widow’s limit if you’re
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already in the situation where your spouse took it early understand that there’s a limit but also understand that it doesn’t make sense to delay past certain age it all depends on your situation we’ll run the report a software includes the Widow’s limit by default it’s just a formula it’s nothing to get all confused about it’s nothing to get angry about it is what it is so you just deal with it but no the last thing I want to see someone doing is saying I’m a widow I’m 62 I’m
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63 I’m going to wait four more years to claim my Survivor benefit because it’s I want to get the most when they’ve already met the limit and they’re not going to get any more and they’re just wasting money by not claiming they’re throwing money away by not claiming yikes well and and the solution is you said it the solution for our listeners and viewers is to have that Social Security maximization report run and I know you’re more than willing to run that for people if they set up a noar
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charge consultation uh I you’re happy to meet with them and run that report for them so I encourage our listeners to give you a call Dan I mean this is a great tool that you’re offering for people and unfortunately there’s a lot of misinformation out there and even if you call the Social Security office you might get someone that’s just not familiar with this concept and I’m not saying they’re being malicious they’re just it’s ignorance because it’s it’s a
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unique spot and you did you’re did say it Tonio most people claim early and so I think the study that I was reading was from uh 20 2007 is and they said about a third of widows and widowers were subjected to the Widow’s limit so it’s not a small amount of people there’s a lot of people watching this that are like yeah my my spouse took it early so explain this widow’s limit to me tell me how it works for my situation what is my max age you know and the software will show that so yeah I encourage people
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give me a call 888-585-2719 ribs at the same day on the same day awesome thanks for another good show Tony we’ll catch everyone next week all matters discussed in today’s show are for informational purposes only this show is not investment advice Dan wi nor dolphin Financial Group are affiliated or endorsed by any government agency investment advisory services are offered through Dolphin Wealth Management Inc a registered investment adviser in the State of Florida Insurance products and services are
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